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    Quote Originally Posted by preparinginidaho View Post


    How is Rebekah a gentile? Just wondering, does her seed possess any gates of those which hate them? What are gates anyway?
    Well, Abraham was a gentile and became a Hebrew via a covenant God cut with him, That made Abraham the first Hebrew. Likewise, Rebekah came from the same land as Abraham, thus she was a gentile, just like Abraham used to be.

    Gates are denoted as power and authority. Rebekah is a forerunner, or type of Jesus' Bride. Isaac is a forerunner, or type of Jesus the Messiah.

    The Bride of Christ, the church, will rule and reign over the world with Jesus during the Millennial reign of Christ.

    I found this article that would better explain this than I could, Allow me to copy and past it here...

    John Gill's Expository commentary;
    and let thy seed possess the gate of those that hate them; exercise dominion and authority over their enemies: let them not only be numerous, but powerful and victorious, as both the nations were at times, and especially the latter; and particularly this had its accomplishment in Christ, who sprung from her in the line of Jacob, Mat_1:2; some respect seems to be had to the promise made to Abraham, Gen_22:17; of which this family might have knowledge from Abraham's servant, who might report not only how great his master was, but what promises were made to him with respect to his posterity.


    And this is from The Preacher's Corner on Bridal studies...



    Rebekab.
    A. The Hebrew word is Ribquh (rib-kaw').
    B. Meaning of name: Fettering (by beauty); a noose (by which men are snared or bound); a tied up calf or lamb (one therefore peculiarly choice and fat); stalled (in the sense of being well-fed, content).
    C. Principle scriptures: Genesis 22:20-49:3 1 (24:20-24; 24:15; 25:20; 26:7; 27:5; 49:31); Romans 9:10.
    D. Typology.
    1. A type of the Church.
    a. The bride.
    b. The sinner sought out.
    2. She was related to Abraham but was not a direct descendant (Abraham was called away from his family). (Genesis 24:15, 24, 37-3
    3. She was a Gentile (same as the Church). (Acts 15:14; Ephesians 2:11)
    E. Purpose.
    1. To show our salvation was decreed by another (the Father).
    2. To show our salvation was received by the hearing of the message, faith.
    3. To show the necessity of making our decision known. (Romans 10:10)
    F. A type of the Church.
    1. The calling of the bride followed the figure who had already passed through death and resurrection.
    a. She was called from the Gentiles.
    (1) This is a picture of the conversion of a sinner and its effects.
    2. She was the object of love. (Genesis 24:4; I John 4:19; cf I John 3:11)
    3. She was sought out by the servant. (Genesis 24:9)
    4. She was made known at the well before the gate (the well of living water). (Genesis 24:11, 16, 19, 27; cf John 4)
    5. She was a Gentile. (Genesis 24:15, 24, 37-38; Acts 9:15; 13:46-48, 15:7, 14; 28:28; Romans 11:11; 15:9)
    6. She was offered the privilege of becoming the bride. (Genesis 24:22)
    7. She was given a token of the riches. (Genesis 24:53; cf II Corinthians 5:5)
    a. Genesis 24:53.
    (1) Jewels of Silver: Redemption money; slave market.
    (2) Jewels of Gold: Kingdom; position; glory; divinity.
    (3) Raiment: Clothing; be covered; righteousness.
    b. Genesis 24:30.
    (1) Ring: Type of the pure and perfect care which the Lord exercises over his Bride because of the relationship between them.
    (a) It tells of a devotion and care that will not be broken.
    (b) Always sufficient.
    (c) Constant without end. (cf Song of Solomon 5:14)
    8. She was called upon for a decision. (Genesis 24:55-56)
    a. Asked to marry a man whom she had not seen. (cf I Peter 1:
    b. While the messenger was present. (cf "now...day of salvation." II Corinthians 6:2)
    c. Could not be on the fence. (cf Matthew 12:30; Luke 11:23)
    9. Answer was made known.
    a. I will go. (Genesis 24: 57-58; cf Romans 10:10; II Corinthians 8:5, 12; Hebrews 3:7)
    10. She obeyed the servant. (Genesis 24:61)
    a. She did not try to choose her own path.
    b. She was satisfied to follow the servant.
    (1) He had been that way before.
    (2) A guide was necessary.
    11. She did not get married or see the groom as soon as she said yes.
    12. Groom revealed by the Spirit at the rapture. (Genesis 24:65)
    13. She was clothed with the garments of salvation. (Genesis 24:64; Revelation 19:7-

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    This is the most important, the first on any list.

    But there is a second to set alongside it: 'Love others as well as you love yourself.'

    These two commands are pegs; everything in God's Law and the Prophets hangs from them."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daytonabill0001 View Post
    Well, Abraham was a gentile and became a Hebrew via a covenant God cut with him, That made Abraham the first Hebrew. Likewise, Rebekah came from the same land as Abraham, thus she was a gentile, just like Abraham used to be.

    Gates are denoted as power and authority. Rebekah is a forerunner, or type of Jesus' Bride. Isaac is a forerunner, or type of Jesus the Messiah.

    The Bride of Christ, the church, will rule and reign over the world with Jesus during the Millennial reign of Christ.

    I found this article that would better explain this than I could, Allow me to copy and past it here...

    John Gill's Expository commentary;
    and let thy seed possess the gate of those that hate them; exercise dominion and authority over their enemies: let them not only be numerous, but powerful and victorious, as both the nations were at times, and especially the latter; and particularly this had its accomplishment in Christ, who sprung from her in the line of Jacob, Mat_1:2; some respect seems to be had to the promise made to Abraham, Gen_22:17; of which this family might have knowledge from Abraham's servant, who might report not only how great his master was, but what promises were made to him with respect to his posterity.

    And this is from The Preacher's Corner on Bridal studies...



    Rebekab.
    A. The Hebrew word is Ribquh (rib-kaw').
    B. Meaning of name: Fettering (by beauty); a noose (by which men are snared or bound); a tied up calf or lamb (one therefore peculiarly choice and fat); stalled (in the sense of being well-fed, content).
    C. Principle scriptures: Genesis 22:20-49:3 1 (24:20-24; 24:15; 25:20; 26:7; 27:5; 49:31); Romans 9:10.
    D. Typology.
    1. A type of the Church.
    a. The bride.
    b. The sinner sought out.
    2. She was related to Abraham but was not a direct descendant (Abraham was called away from his family). (Genesis 24:15, 24, 37-3
    3. She was a Gentile (same as the Church). (Acts 15:14; Ephesians 2:11)
    E. Purpose.
    1. To show our salvation was decreed by another (the Father).
    2. To show our salvation was received by the hearing of the message, faith.
    3. To show the necessity of making our decision known. (Romans 10:10)
    F. A type of the Church.
    1. The calling of the bride followed the figure who had already passed through death and resurrection.
    a. She was called from the Gentiles.
    (1) This is a picture of the conversion of a sinner and its effects.
    2. She was the object of love. (Genesis 24:4; I John 4:19; cf I John 3:11)
    3. She was sought out by the servant. (Genesis 24:9)
    4. She was made known at the well before the gate (the well of living water). (Genesis 24:11, 16, 19, 27; cf John 4)
    5. She was a Gentile. (Genesis 24:15, 24, 37-38; Acts 9:15; 13:46-48, 15:7, 14; 28:28; Romans 11:11; 15:9)
    6. She was offered the privilege of becoming the bride. (Genesis 24:22)
    7. She was given a token of the riches. (Genesis 24:53; cf II Corinthians 5:5)
    a. Genesis 24:53.
    (1) Jewels of Silver: Redemption money; slave market.
    (2) Jewels of Gold: Kingdom; position; glory; divinity.
    (3) Raiment: Clothing; be covered; righteousness.
    b. Genesis 24:30.
    (1) Ring: Type of the pure and perfect care which the Lord exercises over his Bride because of the relationship between them.
    (a) It tells of a devotion and care that will not be broken.
    (b) Always sufficient.
    (c) Constant without end. (cf Song of Solomon 5:14)
    8. She was called upon for a decision. (Genesis 24:55-56)
    a. Asked to marry a man whom she had not seen. (cf I Peter 1:
    b. While the messenger was present. (cf "now...day of salvation." II Corinthians 6:2)
    c. Could not be on the fence. (cf Matthew 12:30; Luke 11:23)
    9. Answer was made known.
    a. I will go. (Genesis 24: 57-58; cf Romans 10:10; II Corinthians 8:5, 12; Hebrews 3:7)
    10. She obeyed the servant. (Genesis 24:61)
    a. She did not try to choose her own path.
    b. She was satisfied to follow the servant.
    (1) He had been that way before.
    (2) A guide was necessary.
    11. She did not get married or see the groom as soon as she said yes.
    12. Groom revealed by the Spirit at the rapture. (Genesis 24:65)
    13. She was clothed with the garments of salvation. (Genesis 24:64; Revelation 19:7-

    Does that work for you?
    Hardly! Wrong answer. After the way you responded to MsPaulRevere, don't bother answering me.

    BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER

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