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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar Wilde View Post
    I appreciate the bullit points ... but first, while we're on the subject, lets identify exactly what obocare is.

    In a nutshell it's a get rich quick scheme for a handful of folks while providing little to nothing in return to the payees.

    Who benefits and how? And I ask this in sincerity cuz I'm a victim of the VA ... well not victim, uh recipient, yeah that's it.

    So I'm unfamiliar with the intricacies of obocare and other than recognizing it as a wholesale scam, I know nothing else about it.

    Forgo the legaleeze and describe some of the benefits and the beneficiaries and perhaps how this ... program is more advantageous as opposed to the old fashion doctor patient relationship.

    At your leisure.

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    Oscar, the VA needs to be abolished and replaced by The United States Armed Forces Medical Corps, modeled on the best atributes of the Army Corps of Engineers and the best functions of the V.A.. The Corps of Engineers and it's work , with some exceptions, has been one of the best examples of public/private interaction I can think of.

    This same organization can purchase large amounts of healthcare and medicine from the private sector at discount prices to support veterans, national security and low income health care. The Surgeon General should head this organization as one of the joint chiefs of staff. Every states national guard force should include a robust medical compliment.

    Veterans deserve health care 'up to and including' the best we can provide.

    There is some synergy in the facts that V.A. and the obamacare mess both need to be fixed by government and at the same time.

    You might just as well change those ujoints while you've got the trans out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seditious View Post
    the VA needs to be abolished ....
    Seditious, this is all well beyond the narrow confines of my field of expertise but I will say ... write this down, provide some detail and submit to the incoming crew for review and implementation.

    I would only add two things and I'm going to walk on that thin line betwixt socialism and this cancer often hailed as free market capitalism. At the basic local level, yes but beyond this is taxpayer funded, government controlled industrial grade bidness.

    Your healthcare plan must be available to our society in it's entirety if for no other reason than to avoid the perception of a divide ... and it's just the right thing to do.

    Secondly the AMA who is complicit must be abolished as well in addition to AIG returning the trillions provided them by the previous traitor in cheef.

    I suppose what I have in mind is a kinder, gentler Pol Pot sweep ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar Wilde View Post

    I suppose what I have in mind is a kinder, gentler Pol Pot sweep ....

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    I think that I would agree that some people deserve to bleed to death on the front lawn of a hospital but in reality we have a federal law, decades old, that hospitals can't allow that. How do you plan to fix that? Anarchy or compromise?
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    The government has never done anything more efficiently than the private sector. Ever.. Never.
    Europe used to have empires. They were run by emperors.
    Then we had kingdoms. They were run by kings.
    Now we have countries...

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    Quote Originally Posted by merovingian View Post
    The government has never done anything more efficiently than the private sector. Ever.. Never.
    Healthcare is a market item. What is the federal government's best purchase model? Who do we need to buy that commodity for? Who do we need to buy that commodity from? The generic costs less than an epipen and is available. No Congresssional hearings required.
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    Quote Originally Posted by merovingian View Post
    The government has never done anything more efficiently than the private sector. Ever.. Never.
    Well, except killing people. They excel at that, and in industrial quantities at times, too.
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    Rand Paul Endangers Health Law Repeal

    Republican Senator said he would oppose measure to begin process of repealing Affordable Care Act,
    saying it adds too much to the federal budget deficit



    http://www.wsj.com/articles/rand-pau...al-1483557210?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyM View Post
    Rand Paul Endangers Health Law Repeal

    Republican Senator said he would oppose measure to begin process of repealing Affordable Care Act,
    saying it adds too much to the federal budget deficit
    A little misleading... His objection is qualified in that he is suggesting a replacement model be passed simultaneously. This is different than the simple repeal and delay strategy posed by others. His rationale is based on studies that project bankruptcies of HC Insurers and an expectation of bailouts. The anticipated bailouts would drive the budget deficit.

    I disagree that Bailouts will be required. But then again, I have no trouble saying - NO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by awitness View Post
    A little misleading... His objection is qualified in that he is suggesting a replacement model be passed simultaneously. This is different than the simple repeal and delay strategy posed by others. His rationale is based on studies that project bankruptcies of HC Insurers and an expectation of bailouts. The anticipated bailouts would drive the budget deficit.

    I disagree that Bailouts will be required. But then again, I have no trouble saying - NO.
    No bailouts and let them go TU. They helped write this disaster, they wanted this disaster, now let them sink with this disaster. If they go away it will just make room for some new upstart company to take their place and maybe have a better business model.



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    The back story on Donald Trump and vaccines

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