Pope heads into busy Christmas season tired, weak

[Jethro]

So are you saying he is too pooped to pope?

[nchomemaker]

So are you saying he is too pooped to pope?

That there is funny!

[Seeking Wisdom]

This current pope has one of the best books on Christ I have ever read. I have read now many of the desert fathers, patristic fathers, the saints and other Christian theology but his fellow was quite good at going beyond just mere Christianity. I loved him for his intelligence and depth of understanding the word of God. I was a protestant for a good 50 years and became a recent convert to Catholicism because of the eucharist and the connections to the true body and blood. I do not want to give the impression that I am a cheerleader for the Catholic way, but give the fellow a break by not casting a stone unless you know the fellow a little.

[LabbyLove]

This current pope has one of the best books on Christ I have ever read. I have read now many of the desert fathers, patristic fathers, the saints and other Christian theology but his fellow was quite good at going beyond just mere Christianity. I loved him for his intelligence and depth of understanding the word of God. I was a protestant for a good 50 years and became a recent convert to Catholicism because of the eucharist and the connections to the true body and blood. I do not want to give the impression that I am a cheerleader for the Catholic way, but give the fellow a break by not casting a stone unless you know the fellow a little.

The message of Jesus Christ was very simple.

[coalcracker]

If we substutute the word "Catholic" for the word "Samaritan" in the Gospels, perhaps we will see that the Lord wishes to address and correct our condescending religious prejudices.

For instance, in the parable of the Good Catholic, we may see the first person who walks by and leaves the man to die as a "born again Christian."

You say, that's not what the parable teaches, but indeed it is. Those first century Levites were the Evangelical, Bible-believers of their day. Jesus would've perhaps sided with their theology, but He did not side with their unkind judgmental attitude toward the Samaritans, a group they viewed as inferior.

Who was the neighbor to the man?
Come on, force yourself to say it..."the Catholic."

[Ruckmanite]

If we substutute the word "Catholic" for the word "Samaritan" in the Gospels, perhaps we will see that the Lord wishes to address and correct our condescending religious prejudices.

For instance, in the parable of the Good Catholic, we may see the first person who walks by and leaves the man to die as a "born again Christian."

You say, that's not what the parable teaches, but indeed it is. Those first century Levites were the Evangelical, Bible-believers of their day. Jesus would've perhaps sided with their theology, but He did not side with their unkind judgmental attitude toward the Samaritans, a group they viewed as inferior.

Who was the neighbor to the man?
Come on, force yourself to say it..."the Catholic."

Typical symbolism over substance. Touchy feely sounds nice, makes clowns like Benny Hynn and Joel Osteen a lot of money, but it is not sound doctrine.

2 Timothy 4:2-6 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry. For I am now ready to be offered, and the time of my departure is at hand.

[Ruckmanite]

This current pope has one of the best books on Christ I have ever read. I have read now many of the desert fathers, patristic fathers, the saints and other Christian theology but his fellow was quite good at going beyond just mere Christianity. I loved him for his intelligence and depth of understanding the word of God. I was a protestant for a good 50 years and became a recent convert to Catholicism because of the eucharist and the connections to the true body and blood. I do not want to give the impression that I am a cheerleader for the Catholic way, but give the fellow a break by not casting a stone unless you know the fellow a little.

Before the law, abstain from blood. Under the law, abstain from blood. In Acts, abstain from blood.

Now the Eucharist has a priest take fermented wine and a cookie, say hocus pocus, and shazam, he calls Christ from heaven, crucifies him again, and magically transforms the cookie into Christ's flesh and the wine into his blood, which we were commanded to abstain from.

So, once again, what happens to Christ after his blood and flesh go through the human digestive process?

You got it. Holy crap.

It is figurative, not literal. We are not cannibals, and we receive Christ by faith, not a cookie from a priest who is likely a sodomite. Moreover, the priesthood ended when when the veil was torn from top to bottom after Jesus died on the cross, showing that we could boldly approach the throne of grace, without the need of a priest.

Jesus Christ was a prophet here. He is now our Great High Priest, and he will return as King of Kings and Lord of Lords.

The Eucharist is simply an Egyptian/Babylonian carryover that blended the pagan religions of sun worship into Christianity, and the outcome was the RCC.

[MtnGal]

There was a thread here somewhere that I can not find talking about the reconstruction of the EU and the old Roman Empire. The next Pope is to be Petrus Romanus.

just saying

[UpstateStormy]

Before the law, abstain from blood. Under the law, abstain from blood. In Acts, abstain from blood.

Now the Eucharist has a priest take fermented wine and a cookie, say hocus pocus, and shazam, he calls Christ from heaven, crucifies him again, and magically transforms the cookie into Christ's flesh and the wine into his blood, which we were commanded to abstain from.

So, once again, what happens to Christ after his blood and flesh go through the human digestive process?

You got it. Holy crap.

It is figurative, not literal. We are not cannibals, and we receive Christ by faith, not a cookie from a priest who is likely a sodomite. Moreover, the priesthood ended when when the veil was torn from top to bottom after Jesus died on the cross, showing that we could boldly approach the throne of grace, without the need of a priest.

Jesus Christ was a prophet here. He is now our Great High Priest, and he will return as King of Kings and Lord of Lords.

The Eucharist is simply an Egyptian/Babylonian carryover that blended the pagan religions of sun worship into Christianity, and the outcome was the RCC.

So you know what Christ's Glorified Body is made of ?

[Ruckmanite]

So you know what Christ's Glorified Body is made of ?

Yep. And I know what the RCC teaches, and transubstantiation did not exist until 1215. Since history, and words mean things, here you go:

http://www.remnantofgod.org/transubstantiation.htm

I would like to define the Roman Catholic doctrine of "transubstantiation," and the vital importance Rome places upon it. In the year 1215A.D. Pope Innocent III decreed the doctrine of transubstantiation. This is the Roman doctrine that states the priest has the ability to perform the miracle of changing the wafer into the body of Jesus Christ for all Catholics to receive as communion. Five years later in 1220A.D. Pope Honorius sanctioned the adoration and or worship of the wafer as doctrine.

"If anyone denies that in the sacrament of the most Holy Eucharist (communion wafer) are contained truly, really and substantially the body and blood together with the soul and divinity of our Lord Jesus Christ, and consequently the whole Christ, but says that He is in it only as a sign, or figure or force, let him be anathema." (An exhausted definition of "Anathema" = To be damned and put to death) p.79, Canon 1.

By the consecration the transubstantiation of the bread and wine into the Body and Blood of Christ is brought about. Under the consecrated species of bread and wine Christ himself, living and glorious, is present in a true, real, and substantial manner: his Body and his Blood, with his soul and his divinity (cf. Council of Trent: DS 1640; 1651). From the Catechism of the Catholic Church.1413

"Experience teaches that there is no other remedy for the evil, but to put heretics (Protestants) to death; for the (Romish) church proceeded gradually and tried every remedy: at first she merely excommunicated them; afterwards she added a fine; then she banished them; and finally she was constrained to put them to death." -Cardinal Bellarmine famous champion of Romanism cited by Schumucker p. 76

" 'The church,' says [Martin] Luther, 'has never burned a heretic.' . . I reply that this argument proves not the opinion, but the ignorance or impudence of Luther. Since almost infinite numbers were either burned or otherwise killed, Luther either did not know it, and was therefore ignorant, or if he was not ignorant, he is convicted of impudence and falsehood,--for that heretics were often burned by the [Catholic Church may be proved from many examples."--Robert Bellarmine, Disputationes de Controversiis, Tom. II, Lib. III, cap. XXII, 1628 edition [Bellarmine is one of the most respected Jesuit teachers in the history of the Gregorian University in Rome, the largest Jesuit training school in the world].

"The church may by Divine right confiscate the property of heretics, imprison their persons, and condemn them to the flames." -Vatican II

You cannot deny history.