Paid egg donor wanted

[Davy Crockett]

Because I don't believe in it for myself. For me, that would be voluntarily making myself a cuckold, the human equivalent of avian victims of cowbirds, magpies, whydahs, and other brood parasites. Think of a house that you have to pay the mortgage on, maintain, can visit, but you can never stay the night. That's how adoption would feel for me.

I am aware that many people feel differently than I do. And, I understand well the social utility in stably-married heterosexual couples adopting.

Oh, and healthy white infants are few are far between WRT adoption in the U.S. post-Roe vs. Wade, and nearly as expensive to obtain as what we're doing. (Adopting an 8-YO black crack baby with lots of "special needs" I wouldn't consider doing at gunpoint.) And, I have some pretty good genes that I believe are a public service to pass on.

Very interesting perspective.
Methinks you are prouder of yourself than you need to be

[EWNC]

Very interesting perspective.
Methinks you are prouder of yourself than you need to be

Wow, after reading his posts over the last several weeks I have to say is WOW.

Hey, MNS what would you do if your baby girl grew up and rebelled, got pregnant from a black muslim activist. Would you reject that girl and baby as a bastard child? Its a risk we as parents face. Heck even the most godly parents have children who rebel.

[MinnesotaSmith]

Wow, after reading his posts over the last several weeks I have to say is WOW.

Hey, MNS what would you do if your baby girl grew up and rebelled, got pregnant from a black muslim activist. Would you reject that girl and baby as a bastard child? Its a risk we as parents face. Heck even the most godly parents have children who rebel.

And, you're certainly right that even the best parents have children that go far astray. Still, though, the odds of that are far less than for poor parents. You already know we intend to homeschool. I'm a big fan of NO television for the too-young-to-legally drive crowd (most of them, their skills in the 3 R's scream that they don't have that surfeit of extra time to waste on something harmful like that), although my wife is less hard-core on it than am I. And, we're determined to keep any children we have away (especially unsupervised) from the seriously screwed-up kids (products of divorce or bastardy, MTV-watchers, attend public schools, use recreational chemicals, the usual paths to such) until they're of age that their values are set. I'm a big fan of traditional chaperonage on dates for daughters that still live in my house. I figure that unsupervised dates and the period of time between when kid gets home from public school and the first parent gets home from work are when the bulk of teen pregnancies are conceived in intact families; eliminate those situations, you've eliminated most teen pregnancy right there. The pattern that Orthodox Jews use of daughters normally going straight from their father's household to their husband's is of course the rest of what living arrangements would be required to make avoiding bastardy almost certain.

Re what we'd do if that scenario you outlined came to pass, certainly a combination of love, moral and life guidance as possible, and not enabling the behavior would be in order.

Certainly, such a person as you described them getting involved would not be allowed on our property or at family functions; same as if they had a homosexual lover, say.

I think these guys have a pretty good handle on how a parent should interact with children that have gone that astray:
http://www.helpyourteens.com/tough_love.php

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Davy, a question: you said "Methinks you are prouder of yourself than you need to be".

How proud (of inborn qualities and positive achievements both) do you believe a person "needs" to be?

[Davy Crockett]

Davy, a question: you said "Methinks you are prouder of yourself than you need to be".

How proud (of inborn qualities and positive achievements both) do you believe a person "needs" to be?

Some of us are fallible

[MinnesotaSmith]

Some of us are fallible

All of us are fallible. That's why we need wisdom from outside ourselves, albeit others may be worse off than ourselves in understanding the correct path. (Any prepper expects lots of the latter.)

[EWNC]

[quote=MinnesotaSmith;1405372]And, you're certainly right that even the best parents have children that go far astray. Still, though, the odds of that are far less than for poor parents. You already know we intend to homeschool. I'm a big fan of NO television for the too-young-to-legally drive crowd (most of them, their skills in the 3 R's scream that they don't have that surfeit of extra time to waste on something harmful like that), although my wife is less hard-core on it than am I. And, we're determined to keep any children we have away (especially unsupervised) from the seriously screwed-up kids (products of divorce or bastardy, MTV-watchers, attend public schools, use recreational chemicals, the usual paths to such) until they're of age that their values are set. I'm a big fan of traditional chaperonage on dates for daughters that still live in my house. I figure that unsupervised dates and the period of time between when kid gets home from public school and the first parent gets home from work are when the bulk of teen pregnancies are conceived in intact families; eliminate those situations, you've eliminated most teen pregnancy right there. The pattern that Orthodox Jews use of daughters normally going straight from their father's household to their husband's is of course the rest of what living arrangements would be required to make avoiding bastardy almost certain.

Re what we'd do if that scenario you outlined came to pass, certainly a combination of love, moral and life guidance as possible, and not enabling the behavior would be in order.

Certainly, such a person as you described them getting involved would not be allowed on our property or at family functions; same as if they had a homosexual lover, say.

I think these guys have a pretty good handle on how a parent should interact with children that have gone that astray:
http://www.helpyourteens.com/tough_love.php

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OK, you done did good on dat one

[Bigbear77]

You two will be in my prayers for a successful search for the donor and for a happy, healthy little one in your home

[packyderms_wife]

Wow, after reading his posts over the last several weeks I have to say is WOW.

Hey, MNS what would you do if your baby girl grew up and rebelled, got pregnant from a black muslim activist. Would you reject that girl and baby as a bastard child? Its a risk we as parents face. Heck even the most godly parents have children who rebel.

If you check his posts he already has a daughter from a previous relationship that is less than perfect from the way he describes her.

K-

[MinnesotaSmith]

If you check his posts he already has a daughter from a previous relationship that is less than perfect from the way he describes her.

K-

I have two adult ex-stepdaughters from my 10-year marriage (was divorced before becoming Christian, as people who remember what I post will know). I remain in fairly close contact with one, and see the other once in a great while (but do not correspond).

I also have a child that was given up for adoption many years ago, with whom I have no contact whatsoever.

[packyderms_wife]

I have two adult ex-stepdaughters from my 10-year marriage (was divorced before becoming Christian, as people who remember what I post will know). I remain in fairly close contact with one, and see the other once in a great while (but do not correspond).

I also have a child that was given up for adoption many years ago, with whom I have no contact whatsoever.

I took you off ignore long enough to post this to you MNSmith... maybe Yah is leading you to make amends with your children and the women who bore you dead children rather than to have new live children. I know it's NOTwhat you want to hear, too bad. Yah has a way of using fools to tell us what we don't want to hear, lest you think me a fool.

K-