Keeping His Commandments

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Do you still sin?

IF I sin, He remains my Advocate. I was merely addressing your incorrect claim: "Anyone who claims they can obey God's commandments is a liar"

Ummm...1Jn 2:4 The one who says, “I know Him,” and does not guard His commands, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

Perhaps you were just mixed up?

[Look4Truth]

IF I sin, He remains my Advocate. I was merely addressing your incorrect claim: "Anyone who claims they can obey God's commandments is a liar"

Ummm...1Jn 2:4 The one who says, “I know Him,” and does not guard His commands, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

Perhaps you were just mixed up?

You mean, when you sin, correct? Just want to clear that up first.

[CaryC]

IF I sin,

If? IF?!

Mat 23:1 Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,
Mat 23:2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
Mat 23:3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.
Mat 23:4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.
Mat 23:5 But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments,
Mat 23:6 And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues,
Mat 23:7 And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi.
Mat 23:8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.
Mat 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
Mat 23:10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.
Mat 23:11 But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.
Mat 23:12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.
Mat 23:13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
Mat 23:14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.
Mat 23:15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
Mat 23:16 Woe unto you, ye blind guides, which say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gold of the temple, he is a debtor!
Mat 23:17 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold?
Mat 23:18 And, Whosoever shall swear by the altar, it is nothing; but whosoever sweareth by the gift that is upon it, he is guilty.
Mat 23:19 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifieth the gift?
Mat 23:20 Whoso therefore shall swear by the altar, sweareth by it, and by all things thereon.
Mat 23:21 And whoso shall swear by the temple, sweareth by it, and by him that dwelleth therein.
Mat 23:22 And he that shall swear by heaven, sweareth by the throne of God, and by him that sitteth thereon.
Mat 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
Mat 23:24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.
Mat 23:25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.
Mat 23:26 Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.
Mat 23:27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.
Mat 23:28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.
Mat 23:29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,
Mat 23:30 And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.
Mat 23:31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.

Who was He talking to?

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If? IF?!

Yes, IF I sin, He remains my Advocate...does He not for you? Y'all sometimes remind me of the liberal media! LOL!

[Look4Truth]

Yes, IF I sin, He remains my Advocate...does He not for you? Y'all sometimes remind me of the liberal media! LOL!

You never answered my question, you mean WHEN you sin, correct?

[Off-Grid Organics]

You never answered my question, you mean WHEN you sin, correct?

Omagersh! I was merely accessing the information John wrote, and used HIS terminology! Looky:

1Jn 2:1 My little children, I write this to you, so that you do not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Intercessor with the Father, יהושע Messiah, a righteous One.

John...c'mon man, IF? LOL

[Look4Truth]

Omagersh! I was merely accessing the information John wrote, and used HIS terminology! Looky:

1Jn 2:1 My little children, I write this to you, so that you do not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Intercessor with the Father, יהושע Messiah, a righteous One.

John...c'mon man, IF? LOL

I get it, it's not something you want to admit freely. If you're going to adhere to the Law (un)Keeping belief, admitting you do not keep the Law is... well devastating to your argument and false teaching.

[Pastor Guest]

This is a thread which I believe will do much good because it contrasts the righteousness of God with the self-righteousness of man so well. Saved by grace through the finished work of Jesus Christ or saved by our own works? It cannot be both ways.

[Sherree]

Pharisaical hypocrites persecuting the body of Christ. Nothing new here. Jesus had a few choice words for the Pharisees of his day. "Blind leaders of the Blind". They all continue to fall into the ditch.

[Pastor Guest]

Pharisaical hypocrites persecuting the body of Christ. Nothing new here. Jesus had a few choice words for the Pharisees of his day. "Blind leaders of the Blind". They all continue to fall into the ditch.

Fellas, there are a lot of folks here who are holding out a hand to help you out of the ditch of legalism. The best way for them to do this is to remain on the sure foundation of Jesus Christ. Don't expect them to get into the ditch with you (by agreeing with you) to help you out, because they might get stuck too.