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    Quote Originally Posted by Forty9er View Post
    Yes, you have. You clearly stated that the Levitical priesthood and sacrifices from the Law had been "done away with". No matter how you want to try to spin it, those are "commandments of God" in the Law of Moses. They haven't been removed from the Law. They are still there today and you can read them for yourself.
    Well, maybe I should have said, until the LORD restarts them, if He does. The sacrifices and offerings were generally to be brought to the place where the LORD chooses to place His Name there. Where do you think that is, today? If the LORD chose to place His Name somewhere on earth and restarted the Levitical priesthood, would you comply?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmatic View Post
    if He does.
    I don't think it is a matter of if, but when.

    Mat 5:18 “For truly, I say to you, till the heaven and the earth pass away, one jot or one tittle shall by no means pass from the Torah till all be done.1 Footnote: 1Lk. 16:17.

    Could be a while...

    Rev 21:1 And I saw a renewed heaven and a renewed earth, for the former heaven and the former earth had passed away, and the sea is no more.
    "The one who says he stays in Him is indebted to walk, even as He walked." 1Jn 2:6

    Without Torah, His walk is impossible - it's Rome's walk without Torah.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Off-Grid Organics View Post
    I don't think it is a matter of if, but when.
    Possible. At least you would agree that sacrifices have been stopped for a while?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmatic View Post
    At least you would agree that sacrifices have been stopped for a while?
    70 AD saw to that.
    "The one who says he stays in Him is indebted to walk, even as He walked." 1Jn 2:6

    Without Torah, His walk is impossible - it's Rome's walk without Torah.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Off-Grid Organics View Post
    70 AD saw to that.
    True. I was hoping for some more on your thoughts about Ez 44 and the other scriptures you referenced, but you are probably busy. So, you think sacrifices will restart? For forgiveness of sin? The Hebrews passage about there being not being any more sacrifice for sin but a certain terrifying expectation of judgement, for some? comes to mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmatic View Post
    For forgiveness of sin?
    No. My thoughts are that they will impact people on the horrors concerning the price of sin*; a debt only Messiah could pay in full...*something the so-called 'church age' seems to have forgotten. Won't they be surprised when they will have no 'choice' in regards to Sabbath, feast days, eating clean, etc?
    "The one who says he stays in Him is indebted to walk, even as He walked." 1Jn 2:6

    Without Torah, His walk is impossible - it's Rome's walk without Torah.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Off-Grid Organics View Post
    No. My thoughts are that they will impact people on the horrors concerning the price of sin*; a debt only Messiah could pay in full...*something the so-called 'church age' seems to have forgotten. Won't they be surprised when they will have no 'choice' in regards to Sabbath, feast days, eating clean, etc?
    Yes! I think very many will be surprised! Including me! Good readings. I think it must be stated that Ezekiel's passage, 40-48 was in a "vision". Interesting that there is so much literal detail! Whereas Peter's vision was to teach him an important aspect of God's plan, it wasn't as so many think! That they can now eat rats, mice and pigs!

    I do agree that it is possible that God could restart them, to show the gravity of sin. Thanks. I might be surprised, however!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmatic View Post
    The sacrifices and offerings were generally to be brought to the place where the LORD chooses to place His Name there. Where do you think that is, today?
    That was your previous argument when, contrary to your current argument, you said that the sacrifices and offerings from the Law hadn't stopped but were continuing as spiritual sacrifices today. It seems that your doctrines sort of blow in the wind from one day to the next. Which one are you advocating today?

    You also seem to have missed the whole point of sacrifices under the Law:

    "And the priest shall make atonement for them, and they shall be forgiven." Lev 4:20

    "So the priest shall make atonement for him for his sin, and he shall be forgiven." Lev 4:26

    "And the priest shall make atonement for him, and he shall be forgiven." Lev 4:31

    etc., etc., ...

    The whole purpose of sacrifices under the Law was forgiveness for sins, although we know that it was only a temporary passing over of sins through God's forbearance (Rom 3:25). But now, Christ's one sacrifice provides forgiveness for all sins:

    Heb 10:11 And every priest stands daily at his service, offering repeatedly the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins.
    Heb 10:12 But when Christ had offered for all time a single sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God,
    So since the purpose of the sacrifices under the Law was for forgiveness of sins, how can any Christian say they should continue?

    Heb 10:18 Where there is forgiveness of these, there is no longer any offering for sin.
    And the other obvious conclusion from all of this is that since sacrifices under the Law shouldn't continue, the Law itself can't and shouldn't continue for those who have been forgiven by Christ and who are lead by the Holy Spirit.

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    OK, forty9er. So, in answer to my question if you believe the commandments should be taught, your answer is "No"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmatic View Post
    OK, forty9er. So, in answer to my question if you believe the commandments should be taught, your answer is "No"?
    LOL When did you stop beating your wife?

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