?'s about suicide....

[Wiskey Reb]

I haven't made mention till now, but I just lost my sister to suicide a month ago. Let's suffice to say that her death was instantaneous. It's been torture. Although there is talk of a conversion many years ago, there has been no real evidence of her having faith in Christ. Some of the family is choosing to embrace the best of the possibilities, I suppose that is just their way of handling things.

I've really spent some time thinking and praying about this issue. I just can't personally see how things will go well for my sister. I don't know, maybe I'm wrong, but how does one repent of that act? How does one ask forgiveness? Yes, there is the possibility that in her torment she asked for forgiveness in advance of her act, but that is speculative at best.

I know two things right now. One is that I'll never have an answer to this question that brings comfort. Two is that there is and will never be any comfort in the void that she left behind. There is only a hole that noone else can fill.

Sometimes in this life we just have to embrace the pain, give thanks in all things, and keep walking.

A quote of Robert E Lee comes to mind. It goes somethig like this. "The loss of those we care about so dearly does a service to us in that it loosens the chains that bind us to this realm and endears us to that which is yet to come."

[Pastor Guest]

Read Hebrews Chapter 11. In this chapter you have what some people call the "faith's hall of fame". Notice that
in this chapter you will see that Samson is listed right along with Abraham and other "heroes of the faith". As you
know, Samson killed himself after being blinded and tormented by the Philistines.

I believe this is another example of the fact that salvation is by grace through faith.

[Wiskey Reb]

Read Hebrews Chapter 11. In this chapter you have what some people call the "faith's hall of fame". Notice that
in this chapter you will see that Samson is listed right along with Abraham and other "heroes of the faith". As you
know, Samson killed himself after being blinded and tormented by the Philistines.

I believe this is another example of the fact that salvation is by grace through faith.

Samson willingly sacrificed his own life to take out the Philistine aristocracy, asking God to take his life along with his enemies, not out of despair. Quite a different scenario than someone just being bummed with life and deciding it was a good day to end it.

The equivalent for Samson would have been to take his own life while still in his prison cell.

[Oscar Wilde]

I haven't made mention till now, but I just lost my sister to suicide a month ago .... How does one ask forgiveness? .... and will never be any comfort in the void that she left behind.

I will pray to our Father for her forgiveness .... and your peace when you are ready.

O.W.

["Capt. Midnight"]

It does not matter if your a Catholic, to benefit from the vast studies of the Monastic Church Fathers . I'm not a Roman, but close.

God understands. He Loves us, and as well as he knows every blade of grass, every little creature, he knows us all. God wants us, and wants to forgive us.

"NO," taking our own lives does not please him, but also know, pain and suffering trouble him greatly. I know, I can FEEL in my Heart, the Spirit in this.

As a young child, I knelt at my Grandmothers hospital bed, she was almost 100. She was in misery, there was no recovery. She raised me, she was the most loving, caring, GLOWING with the Holy Spirit person I've ever met. I owe her for everything I have. I miss her everyday. I Prayed for her to stay with me, please don't go, I KNOW she heard some of my pleadings. She loved me more than any person ever could, more than my mother, up to even perhaps my good Wife. God rest her Holy Soul.

I regretted not being present when she slipped away, I left her side to shower and such, and she let go. I was torn for a long while.

I KNOW she wouldn't want me to suffer in her name. I know she will hold me close again in Glory in Heaven. I know, she's proud, and loves me.

God will take her, FORGIVE her, and purify her soul. She cannot enter into the fullest of Glory until the pain of what happened, and how it touched others, is mitigated. She isn't being punished, but in all of this, the devil will use your feelings against you, to accuse you both, to pull you from Grace.

For both of your sakes, REJECT the devil, get him behind you, Pray for her to be made clean of all pain and suffering, to enter fully into Glory, and KNOW!! in you Heart, of Hearts, that YOU, have beloved waiting to hold you, and share Heaven with you in Gods light, forever.

The Catechism of the Catholic Church defines suicide as, "The willful taking of one’s own life; a grievous sin against the fifth commandment. A human person is neither the author nor the supreme arbiter of his life, of which God is sovereign master." However, the catechism points out that, "Grave psychological disturbances, anguish, or grave fear of hardship, suffering, or torture can diminish the responsibility of the one committing suicide." (CCC 2282)