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    Quote Originally Posted by 119 View Post
    ??? I am sorry friend, I am confused. Why would the set apart (Holy) Spirit say anything different than YHWH's set apart instructions?

    There is no "choosing" of which instructions of God we should follow...right?
    So you follow all 683 laws....? Even the Temple Laws?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fisheater View Post
    Ok ..so you do not believe in the Trinty ... One God 3 distinct persons?
    Yes and no...we would have to begin a process of defining terms, going into the Latin of the creation of that doctrine. Its adaptation into English creates logical fallacies.

    The unity of the 3, or "essence" of the 3, that the original Trinity model describes is the "Word of God" and there is only one "Word" or seed.

    Most do not want to go this deep, but simply say "one God, 3 persons" as if that really means something. The Bible explains it all much better than the actual Trinity doctrine.

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    Side note: I love how obeying the Word of God is now just called "HR".

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    Quote Originally Posted by 119 View Post
    Yes and no...we would have to begin a process of defining terms, going into the Latin of the creation of that doctrine. Its adaptation into English creates logical fallacies.

    The unity of the 3, or "essence" of the 3, that the original Trinity model describes is the "Word of God" and there is only one "Word" or seed.

    Most do not want to go this deep, but simply say "one God, 3 persons" as if that really means something. The Bible explains it all much better than the actual Trinity doctrine.
    Answer the question ... do you believe in the understood and accepted Christian Doctrine of the Trinity .... 3 persons One God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fisheater View Post
    Come on ... One verse theology does not work for the christbrews either ...

    The very verse you quote to support your man made, faith ..tradition .. doctrine ... is part of a teaching where Jesus is teaching against this very thing ....
    Uh, what part of keeping the Sabbath and not eating pigs is "man made" exactly? Last time I checked, God gave those commandments, not "HR".

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheAnonymousCoward View Post
    Side note: I love how obeying the Word of God is now just called "HR".
    It seems you choose what parts of Word Of God to obey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fisheater View Post
    So you follow all 683 laws....? Even the Temple Laws?
    You meant 613. There is not really 613 laws. That is rabbinical.

    Baptism (mikveh) is a Temple law. Do you follow that?

    You need to know the "to who, when, how to, and where" of these commandments.

    Perhaps if I ask a question it might help?

    If you do not have parents, should you keep the obeying parents commandment?

    If the criteria for a commandments does not present itself, does that mean the commandment is abolished? Of course not.

    Our High Priest has all of this under control in the Heavenlies, in a higher order, where such criteria still exists and He offers intercession daily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheAnonymousCoward View Post
    Uh, what part of keeping the Sabbath and not eating pigs is "man made" exactly? Last time I checked, God gave those commandments, not "HR".
    Jesus is not God ?

    Mark 7
    [14]And he called the people to him again, and said to them, "Hear me, all of you, and understand:
    [15] there is nothing outside a man which by going into him can defile him; but the things which come out of a man are what defile him."
    [17] And when he had entered the house, and left the people, his disciples asked him about the parable.
    [18] And he said to them, "Then are you also without understanding? Do you not see that whatever goes into a man from outside cannot defile him,
    [19] since it enters, not his heart but his stomach, and so passes on?" (Thus he declared all foods clean.)
    [20] And he said, "What comes out of a man is what defiles a man.
    [21] For from within, out of the heart of man, come evil thoughts, fornication, theft, murder, adultery,
    [22] coveting, wickedness, deceit, licentiousness, envy, slander, pride, foolishness.
    [23] All these evil things come from within, and they defile a man."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fisheater View Post
    It seems you choose what parts of Word Of God to obey.
    Not at all, you just do not understand the commandments. I don't mean that with disrespect, but if you review all of the commandments in detail, you will understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 119 View Post
    You meant 613. There is not really 613 laws. That is rabbinical.

    Baptism (mikveh) is a Temple law. Do you follow that?

    You need to know the "to who, when, how to, and where" of these commandments.

    Perhaps if I ask a question it might help?

    If you do not have parents, should you keep the obeying parents commandment?

    If the criteria for a commandments does not present itself, does that mean the commandment is abolished? Of course not.

    Our High Priest has all of this under control in the Heavenlies, in a higher order, where such criteria still exists and He offers intercession daily.
    Look .. Can you answer a simple question ... Then we move on ...

    Answer the question ... do you believe in the understood and accepted Christian Doctrine of the Trinity .... 3 persons One God.

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