How does the new Hate Crime Laws affect TTOL?

[Jezcruzen]

Barry can take his new law and stick it up his waaazoooooo. The law is blatantly unconstitutional because it does not provide equal protection under the law. I'm sure there are groups ready to challenge it in court.

[NPinNM]

I think that anything you say CAN and WILL be held against you if YOU have committed or lead someone else into committing a hate crime. Since people have been committing crimes all along, and since some people goad others into committing crimes, this is really nothing new - but IF the crime or the person pushing someone into crime has a direct relationship to it being committed in the NAME OF HATE then, the punishment for that crime will carry a stiffer penalty. Where a website could help to serve the hate crime proof has to do with EVIDENCE about that crime.

We are all entitled to our opinions, we are also entitled to express them, but when someone goes way overboard in that expression and it leads into crime, and that crime specifically is tied to hate, well, it will serve as a pointer in that direction.

Anything to an excess signifies an unbalanced person these days.



NP

[whyknot]

Originally Posted by Jezcruzen

Barry can take his new law and stick it up his waaazoooooo. The law is blatantly unconstitutional because it does not provide equal protection under the law. I'm sure there are groups ready to challenge it in court.

I do not believe that Barry has and will do his business with any part of the constitution in mind..sad but true

[straightstreet]

Originally Posted by .30-30

I fear great persecution of Christian's will be widespread soon.

God have mercy.

I absolutely agree, unfortunately +1000
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[INVAR]

Ask yourself - why did they have to attach this "bill" to a defense spending authorization for next year - and do it virtually in secret?

You need to understand the purpose and intent of this 'hate crimes' bill that they have been wanting to shove down our throats for a long time - and have now done so via stealth.

It isn't about protecting against violent crime - it is about criminalizing thought and belief while biasing justice in favor of politically protected groups.

The intent behind this 'hate crimes' idea is to both criminalize thought and belief, and to silence dissent against those that have empowered this Marxist coup to have taken place.

This is about the deconstruction of the society. Even the Communist plank from the 1950's details how to destroy this society and it spells out why the Marxists and their supporters in both the nation and the Politburo passed this bill.

The bottom line is that God and Morality has to be both redefined and remade and then the original biblical faiths driven from society while those that adhere to the bible are made criminals by the state.

This is so for these reasons:

Liberty, The Declaration of Independence and the Constitution that protects liberty - originated as a gift from Christ and was anchored upon biblical principles. To destroy the Constitution and to eradicate liberty while replacing it with freedoms 'granted by the state' - requires the socialization of the Gospel and the criminalization of Christian and biblical thought, practice and belief in this country. The tyrants have already largely achieved this by promoting the debauchery and sin in this society.

Then that sin becomes protected and promoted by the state and the media.

Then any opposition to sin becomes a crime.

Then liberal Christians are deceived and compromised into adopting the Socialist gospel that empowers the Marxists by remaking the Christian faith and deceiving them into accepting sin and abominations while at the same time joining with the Marxists to wage war on biblical Christianity from within their pews and from within the community itself.

Such is the intents and purpose of the Red Letter Christian movement and the World Council of Churches that are part and parcel of demanding Christians remain silent and support both the Marxist coup and the very machinations of the destruction of liberty in society. They do this while screaming at the top of their lungs that they are the "true Christians" while the rest of us are 'deceived' and essentially use the Sermon on the Mount as the justification to support Socialism in both the country and the church.

These are the people who are now preaching that the Religious Right have "hijacked Christianity" and cite the Right's opposition to abortion and homosexuality as the worst sort of grievous sin only surpassed by supporting the military or the war on Jihadists.

Because this movement is tied in directly with the Marxists and the Politburo in power - persecution of Christians will be most solidly engineered from this group.

And this group is solidly behind this "Hate Crimes" law.

How will it affect the TOL?

What effect did the Intolerable Acts or the Blockade of Boston or the British Invasion at Concord and Lexington have on the Sons of Liberty?

Some died. Some were imprisoned. Some lost everything they had. All of them fought back with the gifts and talents they had to offer on the altar of liberty.

They all signed a death warrant by standing in defiance of tyranny.

Why should we be any different?

Please read Matthew 24 and understand that persecution is coming - and YOU and I are the targets of this persecution. It will start from within our churches themselves by the very Red Letter Christians that have approving power from the State and the eye of the media - and then we will be cast out of them.

This Hate Crimes Law is just another tool in the State's disposal to silence and persecute us.

Is it better to obey God and the Scriptures - or to obey the tyranny of men?

I don't know what course other men will take. But I know what mine will be. Unless of course Housewolf decides that the need to keep this house as a refuge outweighs the enemy from training their sights on this place because of all our commotion.

[chicom]

Look, I had a lovely supper, and all I said to my wife was; "that was piece of Halibut was good enough for Jehovah".


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIaORknS1Dk

[HouseWolf]

Originally Posted by INVAR

Is it better to obey God and the Scriptures - or to obey the tyranny of men?

This is the central issue- and SO central that I find I must share just how central it is.

The center of the Bible is Psalms 118. There are 594 chapters before Psalms 118 and 594 after.

Precisely in the center is Psalms 118:8

Psalms 118:8 says: It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man.

[Katy of the fort]

Originally Posted by INVAR

The intent behind this 'hate crimes' idea is to both criminalize thought and belief, and to silence dissent against those that have empowered this Marxist coup to have taken place.

Sad but TRUE!!!

[paladin1991]

Originally Posted by chicom

Look, I had a lovely supper, and all I said to my wife was; "that was piece of Halibut was good enough for Jehovah".


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIaORknS1Dk

He said it again! Stone him!

[INVAR]

Originally Posted by chicom

Look, I had a lovely supper, and all I said to my wife was; "that was piece of Halibut was good enough for Jehovah".


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIaORknS1Dk

Heh.

Hee hee.

What a lovely bunch of coconuts.