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    Quote Originally Posted by breezy View Post
    Is NASA going back on its analysis here?

    Updated data from NASA satellite instruments reveal the Earth’s polar ice caps have not receded at all since the satellite instruments began measuring the ice caps in 1979. Since the end of 2012, moreover, total polar ice extent has largely remained above the post-1979 average. The updated data contradict one of the most frequently asserted global warming claims – that global warming is causing the polar ice caps to recede.
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestay.../#1606a3e632da
    The article to which you refer cites one source, which is http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosph....withtrend.jpg

    If you look at that source, you will see that it has been updated, and conditions that existed prior to 2012 have changed significantly. That source shows 2016 had less polar ice than any earlier year in the satellite record.
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    It’s also much more informative to look, not at just the annual minimum values, but at the annual average values



    This year will have, without doubt, the lowest annual average on record.

    They haven’t talked much about Arctic sea ice since September, because
    as much as the April-May lows were a shock, a bigger shock by far is
    what happened since October:



    https://tamino.wordpress.com/2016/12...6-arctic-spin/
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    The webcam located in Barrow, Alaska shows some open water today (Dec 28 )



    http://seaice.alaska.edu/gi/observatories/barrow_webcam
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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyM View Post
    The webcam located in Barrow, Alaska shows some open water today (Dec 28 )
    ... glowbull warming from all them lightbulbs.

    O.W.


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    Maine looks north, hoping to become a gateway to the Arctic


    For government and indigenous officials from around the world,
    the Arctic Council meeting here in October was a week-long
    opportunity to discuss shared Arctic issues like sustainable
    development and protecting ecosystems.

    For the people of Maine, it was a week-long opportunity to
    reconnect with their rich Arctic history, and to imagine a future
    where Maine is not a remote and limited corner of a powerful
    country, but a gateway to, and steward of, the rapidly changing
    and increasingly active Arctic region.

    The increased activity is, of course, in large part a result of
    climate change.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/maine...arctic-2016-12
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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyM View Post
    For government and indigenous officials from around the world,
    the Arctic Council meeting here in October was a week-long
    opportunity to discuss shared Arctic issues like sustainable
    development and protecting ecosystems.
    Two very fine examples of oxy moronishness.

    Quote Originally Posted by TonyM View Post
    For the people of Maine, it was a week-long opportunity to
    reconnect with their rich Arctic history, and to imagine a future
    where Maine is not a remote and limited corner
    of a powerful
    country, but a gateway to, and steward of, the rapidly changing
    and increasingly active Arctic region.
    You believe them Mainiacs want money grubbin outsiders traipsin through their, quiet, peaceful environ? To what and whose benefit?

    Quote Originally Posted by TonyM View Post
    The increased activity is, of course, in large part a result of
    climate change.
    Whose "activity"?

    O.W.


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    I'm saving empty milk jugs at our house. My plan is to fill them with water, freeze them, and then ship them addressed to Santa Clause at the North Pole.

    Yeah, I know, it's awful good of me; but I think we all can do our part.

    And after all, we all know global warming is as real as Santa.

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    Ice coverage during November of each year


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    I'm going out to buy more milk right now--can't have too many jugs for freezing, you know.

    Also, now might be a good time to invest in sun tan lotion. I hear the Eskimos burn easily.

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    They swore, if we gave them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease.
    “As a general rule, the earlier you recognize someone is trying to kill you, the better off you’ll be.”

    "You think a wall as solid as the earth separates civilisation from barbarism. I tell you the division is a sheet of glass."



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